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		By: Dani Barrett		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tajare, really great post! I find this conversation of pride to be super interesting, especially because in my experience, this pride in being American is almost forced into the minds of our children in school. How the first long-ish phrase we learn to memorize is the pledge of allegiance, which students are expected to recite every single day, and if someone refuses, they are subjected to ridicule and guilt in the form of &quot;you are disrespecting everyone who has died for your ability to stand and recite this statement.&quot; Additionally, in many school environments, history classes also teach with this extreme nationalism overshadowing the information. I personally had one class ever in my public school education that encouraged us to try and understand the true horrifying reality of the American past and to reflect on the present failures, and that was a class I had to seek out...not one on the standard track. Unfortunately, (and I cannot speak for everywhere) our public education systems are built in a way that allows us to never need to confront the reality of what American History and American present actually mean, all the while instilling a level of &quot;America is Faultless and criticizing it is disrespectful to those who have died protecting your freedom&quot; nationalism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tajare, really great post! I find this conversation of pride to be super interesting, especially because in my experience, this pride in being American is almost forced into the minds of our children in school. How the first long-ish phrase we learn to memorize is the pledge of allegiance, which students are expected to recite every single day, and if someone refuses, they are subjected to ridicule and guilt in the form of &#8220;you are disrespecting everyone who has died for your ability to stand and recite this statement.&#8221; Additionally, in many school environments, history classes also teach with this extreme nationalism overshadowing the information. I personally had one class ever in my public school education that encouraged us to try and understand the true horrifying reality of the American past and to reflect on the present failures, and that was a class I had to seek out&#8230;not one on the standard track. Unfortunately, (and I cannot speak for everywhere) our public education systems are built in a way that allows us to never need to confront the reality of what American History and American present actually mean, all the while instilling a level of &#8220;America is Faultless and criticizing it is disrespectful to those who have died protecting your freedom&#8221; nationalism.</p>
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		By: ShellyZK		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Tajarie! 
  The situation with Isaac Woodward made me think that even if they did notice he was a soldier fighting for this country, they probably didn&#039;t even care. The sad thing is, we still see similar situations happen today. Black individuals are profiled just because they are Black, even if they are where they are supposed to be. I saw a video a few weeks ago about a Black man who was an executive for a store or something and police officers stopped him on the street because he &quot;jaywalked&quot; (he didn&#039;t). They then asked him if he had an ID on him and he went to go reach for it, which was in his wallet, in his pocket. However, the cops yelled at him and told him not to go into his pocket. What I don&#039;t understand is, you literally just asked him if he had an ID. He went to go get it, why are you mad at him? The answer is because the executive was a Black man. If the executive was a White man, he wouldn&#039;t even be looked at. 
 It&#039;s also interesting that you mention being proud of the American identity if you were born in America. As I grow older and continue to learn about the hate that America was built on, I have become ashamed of my American identity. Watching other countries go towards normalcy, while the United States suffers from the COVID-19 pandemic, makes me ashamed of being an American. I think that there is so much work that needs to be done in terms of government, structural changes, and inequality reform. 
 As for your question, I think that it is very difficult to remove the American identity from the country&#039;s history, because really not much has changed. Not only in terms of equality for minorities, but with equality between men and women, people who are a part of the LGBTQ+ community, and essentially anyone who is not a cis-heterosexual white man. This country was built for the white man and continues to be for the white man. Not saying that white people in general do not hold a privilege in this country, because they do, but I don&#039;t think there&#039;s a way to separate the identity and the history. We are currently living in it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tajarie!<br />
  The situation with Isaac Woodward made me think that even if they did notice he was a soldier fighting for this country, they probably didn&#8217;t even care. The sad thing is, we still see similar situations happen today. Black individuals are profiled just because they are Black, even if they are where they are supposed to be. I saw a video a few weeks ago about a Black man who was an executive for a store or something and police officers stopped him on the street because he &#8220;jaywalked&#8221; (he didn&#8217;t). They then asked him if he had an ID on him and he went to go reach for it, which was in his wallet, in his pocket. However, the cops yelled at him and told him not to go into his pocket. What I don&#8217;t understand is, you literally just asked him if he had an ID. He went to go get it, why are you mad at him? The answer is because the executive was a Black man. If the executive was a White man, he wouldn&#8217;t even be looked at.<br />
 It&#8217;s also interesting that you mention being proud of the American identity if you were born in America. As I grow older and continue to learn about the hate that America was built on, I have become ashamed of my American identity. Watching other countries go towards normalcy, while the United States suffers from the COVID-19 pandemic, makes me ashamed of being an American. I think that there is so much work that needs to be done in terms of government, structural changes, and inequality reform.<br />
 As for your question, I think that it is very difficult to remove the American identity from the country&#8217;s history, because really not much has changed. Not only in terms of equality for minorities, but with equality between men and women, people who are a part of the LGBTQ+ community, and essentially anyone who is not a cis-heterosexual white man. This country was built for the white man and continues to be for the white man. Not saying that white people in general do not hold a privilege in this country, because they do, but I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a way to separate the identity and the history. We are currently living in it.</p>
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